Arguing with a tree.... WITH A TREE! "I don't know if the Minoa got what *she* wanted but we did"... great lover you are, Shadeslayer Quenching the sword during the forging with water alone is not possible, there is brine and oil as water evaporates around the blade and does not cool it down, it creates a steam protective layer. The sword catches fire when he so originally dubs it Brisingr, and he yelps and drops it! Oh my gosh, the world needs more Riders like you I'm almost done, thankfully. One more brick to go